In the field
You can look at a few photos of the fire I just got home from on Flickr.
EMT information about fire incidents
Northern Rockies Incident Medical Specialist Program
Questions about the way fires and other incidents are managed medically
Thomas Pedigo, a paramedic from Colorado, has written a good article on current problems with the medical care provided on wildland fire incidents.
Among other things, he notes that the main cause of death on fires is heart attacks (28%) rather than burnover events (11.4%). But the treatment for breathless pulseless patients is defibrillation within 4-6 minutes and advanced cardiac meds within 10 minutes. Without such treatment, the survival rate plummets from 30% to 0-8%. To Pedigo, this suggests that “an EMT should be within almost immediate reach of most if not all firefighters. As many are not trained in defibrillation or carry that equipment, a paramedic on the division is the next appropriate level of intervention with medication and shocking. This is the only way to increase the survival rate of a firefighter once the heart attack has ensued.”
He also contemplates the possibility that it would be cheaper to have paramedics or physicians at fires than to pay for the unnecessary transports started by EMTs without much clinical training or experience in the types of problems that are encountered at wildland fires. A helicopter transport will cost $300-$400 dollars and an ER visit costs between $500 and $1100, which means an unneeded transport costs the fire from $1000 to $2000 per person. This does not iinclude lost time for the patient or others involved in the incident. It may be the case that Type 1 incidents with multiple injuries illnesses and transports would do better to have personnel on site who can “write prescriptions, suture a laceration, treat an allergic reaction” etc.
His main recommendations are (1) to study medical records from past incidents to determine the costs of treatment on site versus transport to a hospital, (2) develop a fireline EMT curriculum to prepare EMTs to treat injuries pertinent to wildland fire, and adopt a national curriculum for Fireline EMT/Fireline Paramedic, train incident managment teams to recognize the limits and abilities of various medical care providers, and an increase in medical personnel on the fireline--at least one EMT per crew and one paramedic per division and one clinical practitioner on each large incident. Remote crews should have a fireline paramedic with them.
Safety comes first, he observes, but when safety fails what comes second?
On my recent 14 days in spike camp, I dealt with a lost toenail on a big toe involving quite a dirty injury, but I did not have any suitable disinfectant to soak the injury. I ordered a bottle of iodine but it never came. And of course I could not prescribe or obtain antibiotics. I also dealt with a case of poison ivy that, on the seventh day after infection, became systemic. Nowhere in my training had I been given information about poison ivy this severe, and I interpreted the spreading red inflammation as a secondary infection from the sores rather than as a spreading of the allergic reaction. The only treatment I had available, evacuation, was the same in either case.
I was grateful that the IMS protocols provide this information:
For more severe cases (multiple areas on body, swelling and edema of the face or genitals, progressive lesions unresponsive to topical therapy, intractable pruritus) obtain routine physician referral. A “routine physician referral” is defined as “within 24 hours.”
The nearest defibrillator was at least two hours away if everything went right, but most of the time due to inversions that grounded the helicopters and the inability of jet boats to move on the river after dark such equipment may well have been twelve or more hours away.
The Flathead Agency, which dispatches us, has defibrillators available to EMTs for local fires, which puts them ahead of most agencies. Should they be in EMTs’ line packs, along with the fire shelter?
I’m new to wildland fire, and my initial experiences are giving me plenty to think about. I would like to see EMTs from our service photographing the conditions they encounter, along with basic information about interventions and outcomes, for our own training. Much of what we do is not taught in much detail in the state and national curricula for basic EMTs.
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Call Protocols
Responding to a call
Identify yourself as responding to dispatch
Example- “Radio 25 responding”
“MA 2 is enroute”
Try not to walk on other’s communicationsIdentify who is scene commander while in route
If there is already an EMT on scene this will probably be scene commander until someone else accepts that responsibility.
On scene
Report ambulance on scene to dispatch
Example-"MA2 is on scene” (10 codes not necessary, though this is 10-97)
Scene commander
Scene size up—scene safety
Assign EMTs when there are multiple patients—confirm who is lead EMT or PCO (patient care officer) for each patient
Assign patients to ambulances
Coordinate resources: fire—traffic—bystander help etc.
EMT
Report to scene commander for assignment
Provide assessment, care & transport
In Transport
Driver
Let dispatch know when you are enroute to St. Lukes (or other facility).
In the event of a critical call the driver may give the hospital a heads up report to let them prepare. This would be followed by a more detailed report from the lead EMT.EMT
Continued patient care and more thorough assessment
Hospital report in routeAny non-patients or relatives should ride up front.
Relatives following in their own vehicles should be cautioned against following ambulance too closely.If family requests transport to facility farther away than St. LukeҒs, get permission from that facility prior to transport. Patients can refuse treatment, but they cannot dictate what treatment is provided. Decision as to which facility to transport to is sometimes a treatment call).
Hospital
Parking—Be aware of recent construction at hospital and alternative routes
Back ambulance up to ER door
Be prepared to move ambulance quickly for future incoming ambulances
Lead EMT or PCO
Give patient report to doctor or nurse—be prepared to assist nurses as necessary
Write report—get dispatch times (phone # inside clipboard)
Get cover sheet
Get HIPPA form signed
Driver
Clean up ambulance: sweep & mop
Replace fast patch cables on defibrillator
Turn off oxygen—check levels
Turn off anything else-suction fluorescents etc.
Make of mental list for restocking
Check linens and towel rolls
Check for equipment previously left at hospital—back boards straps ect.
Documentation
Trip report
Complete and legible
Entire history of event
Make sure information is factual
All EMT’s to sign
Write on side of page the names other responding EMTs (who didn’t transport)
Get cover sheet from hospital front desk or nurse
Transfer any missing info to trip report and put cover sheet in with trip reportWhite copy of trip report goes in clipboard
Yellow copy to be left at hospitalHIPPA
Explain form to patient or family member and have them sign
EMT to witness signature
Copy to be left with patientFuel (not to be confused with gas--use the proper fuel)
Credit card is in visor
Save receipt and return with credit card to visor
Write the Mileage & gallons in notebook on driver’s door compartment.
Enroute to hospital
Hospital report
Can be on radio or cell phone
Cell phone ensures better patient confidentiality—radio may be fasterReport should be made by lead EMT or PCO who has complete history & knowledge of patient
In the event EMT’s in back of Ambulance are busy, (code or critical call) driver can give a brief heads up report to hospital just to let them know what is coming their way.
Report
Should be organized and easy to understand.1. identify yourself (and make sure you are talking to a nurse)
2. Give patient chief complaint
3. Give patient age & gender
4. Brief history of current problem
5. Brief report of Physical findings—including vitals and description of injuries
6. Brief summary of care given
7. Estimated time of arrival
8. Ask for questions or commentsNote: If patient or patient’s family requests transport to hospital other than St. Lukes call that hospital prior to transporting and ask for permission (after giving brief report).
Topics
Table of Contents
Calls
- Photos from Rattlesnake Fire, Nez Perce National Forest
- Running
- After the reality comes the reality
- Lightning strike sets haystack ablaze
- Diamond Horseshoe story picked up nationally
- Michael L. Umphrey
- Katherine Mitchell
- Valerie Umphrey
- Jim Umphrey
- Joe Durglo
- Teri Miller
- Annie Morigeau
- Gwen Couture
- Eldon Umphrey
- Michael K. Umphrey
- Gary Steele
- Neal Christiansen
- Christa Umphrey
Roster
Michael L. Umphrey
Announcements
- About Mission Valley Ambulance
- Contact Information
- Submit information about your radio
- Emergency-Vehicle Lighting Manufacturers
Schedule
Meetings
Training
- Professionalism Powerpoint
- Listen to breath sounds on your computer
- What do fireline EMTs need to know?
IMS
Incidents: Flathead Agency
Reservation Fire News
- "Deep Draw Update August 17 (Deep Draw Fire Wildland Fire)" "Saturday the Deep Draw fire exhibited minimal fire behavior, largely smoldering and creeping, occasionally burning of pockets of trees inside the fire line. Crews continued to make good progress..."
- "Garceau Fire Fact Sheet for August 2, 2007 (Garceau Wildland Fire)" " Garceau Fire Fact Sheet Thursday, August 2, 2007 9:00 a.m.Contact: Public Information Officers Terina Mullen and Jill Cobb Message Phone: (406) 883-2403 What: Wildland fire, lightning..."
- "Garceau Fire Fact Sheet - August 1, 2007 (Garceau Wildland Fire)" " Garceau Fire Fact Sheet Wednesday, August 1, 2007 9:00 a.m.Contact: Public Information Officers Terina Mullen, Jill Cobb and Karen SargeantMessage Phone: (406) 883-2403 What: Wildland fire,..."
- "Fire Fact Sheet, August 1, 2007 (Garceau Wildland Fire)" " Garceau Fire Fact Sheet Wednesday, August 1, 2007 9:00 a.m.Contact: Public Information Officers Terina Mullen, Jill Cobb and Karen SargeantMessage Phone: (406) 883-2403 What: Wildland fire,..."
- "Garceau Fire Fact Sheet - July 31, 2007 (Garceau Wildland Fire)" " Garceau Fire Fact Sheet Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:00 a.m.Contact: Public Information Officers Terina Mullen, Jill Cobb and Karen SargeantMessage Phone: (406) 883-2403 What: Wildland fire,..."
- "Fire Fact Sheet for July 30, 2007 (Garceau Wildland Fire)" " Garceau Fire Fact Sheet Monday, July 30, 2007 9:00 a.m.Contact: Public Information Officers Terina Mullen, Jill Cobb and Karen SargeantMessage Phone: (406) 883-2403 What: Wildland fire, lightning..."
- "July 29, 2007 Garceau Fire Fact Sheet (Garceau Wildland Fire)" " Garceau Fire Fact Sheet Sunday, July 29, 2007 9:00 a.m.Contact: Public Information Officers Terina Mullen, Jill Cobb and Rich JanssenMessage Phone: (406) 883-2403 What: Wildland fire, lightning..."
- "Fact Sheet for July 28, 2007 (Garceau Wildland Fire)" " Garceau Fire Fact Sheet Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:00 a.m.Contact: Public Information Officers Terina Mullen and Jill CobbMessage Phone: (406) 883-2403 What: Wildland fire, lightning..."
- "Fact Sheet for July 27, 2007 (Garceau Wildland Fire)" " Garceau Fire Fact Sheet Friday, July 27, 2007 9:00 a.m.Contact: Public Information Officers Terina Mullen and Jill CobbMessage Phone: (406) 208-0934 What: Wildland fire, lightning causedStarted: ..."
- "Fact Sheet for July 26, 2007 (Garceau Wildland Fire)" " Garceau Fire Fact Sheet Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:00 a.m.Contact: Public Information Officers Terina Mullen and Jill CobbMessage Phone: (406) 208-0934 What: Wildland fire, lightning..."